Hareidism vs. Centrism VII

My chavrutah and I were chatting recently about how Stalin YSvZ used to remove pictures of Trotsky, Yezhov, and others by air-brushing them out.

How long ago was it that Secretary Hilary Clinton was air-brushed out of a photo?

And so some airbrush out YU/RIETS from the Orthodox Jewish Landscape.

Is this disrespect?
Or
Intellectual Dishonesty?


Best Regards,
RRW

Hareidism vs. Centrism VI

Re: the Issues of Abuse such as
Child Abuse
Spousal Abuse
Sexual Abuse

Centrists [at least in Democratic Societies] favour involvement with local law enforcement, and their approach is to maximize co-operation. Thus, the Jewish Community is seen as in harmony and in co-operation with the Greater Society

Hareidim tend to approach this with insularity and to avoid "Erka'ot shel Aku'm". Thus, they look to police themselves. This can backfire when they need the protection of the Police or the Courts, because they may be perceived as having burned their bridges.

It seems to me that the Hareidi approach presupposes an oppressive regime and remains an unfortunate legacy especially from Eastern Europe. Certainly under the oppressive Tsarists regimes such open co-operation was damaging and dangerous to Jewish communal survival.

Best Regards,
RRW

Hareidism vs. Centrism V

Q: R Wolpoe, if you had to have in your power to change just ONE thing in the Hareidi world what would it be?

RRW: I would give Hareidism a large dose of Eilu vo'Eilu thinking, more Ahavat Yisrael, more tolerance and empathy for positions with which they disagree or, even, outright reject. In pop-psych we'd call that "I'm OK You're OK" thinking.

Instead of "Wronging" a bar plugta, just disagree with him/her.

Best Regards,
RRW

Hareidism vs. Centrism IV

Rabbi Avraham Edelstein
To MK R Dov Lipman:

« I still felt that you would engage the Haredim in dialogue, ...

Now I know that that is no longer the case. From the first missed opportunity during your opening speech in the Knesset, you have relished your newfound role in certain circles as being the brave hero who says unpopular things to, and about, your own. Your new friends generously provide you with hourly confirmation that your positions are correct.
The problems you express regarding the lack of parnassa in the Haredi community are real and admitted to by every intelligent Haredi leader. But, as I shared with you when we met, solutions to these problems were being executed even as we spoke. Haredim were going to work in increasing numbers. In fact, last year alone, there were five thousand Haredi males engaged in courses and degree programs that represented a full range of careers. The mainstream Haredi communities no longer stigmatize those men who go to work.»

An Open Letter to MK Rabbi Dov Lipman | The Jewish Press
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/an-open-letter-to-mk-rabbi-dov-lipman/2013/06/11/


Best Regards,
RRW

Hareidism vs. Centrism III

«Israel - Tens of thousands of ultra-Orthodox protesters gathered in Jerusalem and in Bnei Brak on Thursday to support the right of Ashkenazi Hasidic parents to keep their children in classes segregated from their Mizrahi peers.

Ultra-Orthodox officials made a last-ditch effort on Wednesday to keep parents in the settlement of Immanuel from being arrested and jailed for refusing to implement a High Court of Justice ruling requiring the Ashkenazi and Mizrahi girls to study in the same classes. ...»

Israel - Tens of Thousands of Charedim Rally for Right to Segregated Education [photos] -- VosIzNeias.com

A case of Austritt in that it calls for separation from even fellow Orthodox.

Best Regards,
RRW

Hareidism vs. Centrism II

 The first entry in this series is at Hareidism vs. Centrism I
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"You (written in the plural) deserve a big Yasher Koach on your activities to save the Torah world, and your vigilance to protect and defend the principles of Yiddishkheit in Eretz Yisrael against those trying to limit our ways," Rav Auerbach is quoted as saying.

Rav Shmuel Auerbach Commends Both Satmar Rebbe's For Organizing Manhattan Protest [UPDATED] | Yeshiva World News



Best Regards,
RRW

Hareidism vs. Centrism I

Which ideologies separate the Hareidi Hashkafah from the more Modern or Centrist Orthodox Hashkafah?

1. Autonomy

Hareidim think that authority trumps autonomy. Forcing people to comply is OK, and koffin oto ad she'omeir Rotzeh Ani is normative.

Centrists see a more autonomous nature as ideal. Authoritarianism is dangerous. Power tends to corrupt.

This might parallel the same issues that divided the Roman Catholics from the Protestants.

This is lav davka black and white, just a trend in thinking.

More Later BE"H

Best Regards,
RRW