Thursday 6 June 2013

Is Torah Under Attack in Israel?

FYI:

I received this email From KAJ (Breuer's) before R"Ch Tammuz -
 
«Following the exhortation of the Gedolim in Eretz Yisroel and America regarding the anti-Torah attitude of the current government in Eretz Yisroel, the Rabbinate calls on our members to join in:
 
Yom Kippur Kotton tefillos, Thursday evening, 
June 6.
 
Mincha will begin at 7:40 (there will be no 8:15 Mincha).»
 
Best Regards,
RRW

3 comments:

micha berger said...

So, the descendants of Torah im Derekh Eretz believe that forcing chareidim to either forgo gov't funds or learn how to make a living is an "anti-Torah attitude".

(Despite having a record number of kippot in the Keneset, an alleged chiloni MK who campaigns to have shiurim in gemara for the Keneset membership, and even Labor obtaining Zomet designed microphones for their rallies on Shabbos.)

I feel like I should be tearing my shirt in mourning for R SR Hirsch's legacy.

Rabbi Ben Hecht said...

It is actually interesting to contemplate on how R SR Hirsch would have responded to this. On both counts, he indeed would seem to have been anti-Charedi. Clearly, within Toran im Derech Eretz, he would advocate for employment. But also, he was strongly against any connection with non-Orthodox Jewish entities even when such an alliance would benefit the Orthodox. As such, he, it would seem, would be against taking Israeli gov't funds.

Yasher koach for pointing this out.

Rabbi Ben Hecht

micha berger said...

I'm not sure how to transplant RSRH's derekh to the Israeli scene. When the host culture is that produced by non-Orthodox Jews, TiDE and Austritt conflict.

The community produced the founders of PAI, who I'm sure thought they were being Hirschian.

But I don't see it. I think the resulting paradox comes from the possibility that R' Hirsch's hashkafah was anti-aliyah. The only way to sanctify oneself with derekh eretz is to contribute to a society that is NOT dominated by non-O Jews. And thus, no aliyah.

Would RSRH have shifted philosophy in 1948, the way Agudah did? (Which was then dominated by what would become Degel haTorah, as is still true in the American Agudah.)
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